Volume 2, Number 52
Published Saturdays Dec
30, 2006
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~ Tribune's Mark Scarp Now Questions SkySong Effects
In the Wednesday, 12-27 Scottsdale Tribune, the headline on Mark Scarp's column announces "Phased-in SkySong No Drawing Card". Gee, that's funny, Isn't that just what scores of residents have been saying since day one of this Crow-Manross-SkyCrumble fiasco?
When are Manross, Ecton and Dolan going to eat their words? 2008 election?.... or hopefully before that for some of them?
How about the infamous Motor Mile subsidies? Looks like that plan is gone to hell in a hand basket too with our taxpayer subsidies disappearing with it. Scott Toyota is, and others are rumored to be leaving for the new Riverview Auto Mall just as we predicted in this publication earlier in the year. It wasn't Rocket Science to figure that out folks!!
OK Mr. Chamber of Commerce Rick Kidder, you are losing the businesses up north to a new, business oriented and motivated North Scottsdale Chamber of Commerce and you will be losing the auto dealers to Mesa.
Do you still think you and the Scottsdale Area Chamber of Commerce are on the right page in the redevelopment of Scottsdale and it's business interests as well as taxpayer subsidies to rich businesses?
We think not!
Hmmm... Wasn't it less than 6 months ago when Kidder said the dealers wouldn't leave after the Scottsdale Activist predicted correctly that they would? Are we that much smarter than he is?? It's a sad case if we are!
How about the DMB request for a height increase which they supported and was defeated as well as Prop 402 which they also supported and lost again. Consensus says the public doesn't want any railed transportation nor do they want high density housing.
Seems like the Scottsdale Area Chamber of Commerce, Kidder, and Korte have all attached themselves to the out-of-touch long skirt with a black head of hair doesn't it?
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Scottsdale 101 Death Alley: Oh Really?
According to the latest Federal reports just published in the Scottsdale Tribune, Wednesday 12-27, which just listed the 6 most dangerous freeway spots in the valley, the 101 Freeway at I-17 with 160 accidents and 2 fatalities is safer than any of the closest competitor by about 32%+ (at the I-10 near the interchange with I-17 at milepost 142 which had 235 accidents and 2 fatalities). The westbound 60 between I-10 and Mill had 924 accidents with 2 fatalities.
This simply stated means that the Scottsdale stretch of the 101 IS NOT unsafe under any condition and the scare tactic of saying it is are apparently all fabricated by city staff to show "they did something about a problem", a problem which doesn't exist now, and never did exist.
Why does the "3 monkeys" group continue to insist that the cameras are for safety when the Scottsdale section of the 101 is one of the safest and NOT because of the cameras, but because of an excellent freeway design and the people generally do drive responsibly with noted exceptions that could be apprehended by DPS if properly funded?
Picture at right from 12-27-06 Scottsdale Tribune front page, above the fold.
~ Make Charter Officer Reviews Public with Public Input
It's interesting that all employees of the city have annual reviews except the Charter Officers. Isn't it funny that the City Attorney is again now publicly, on the record, referred to as a Charter Officer? Can we now enforce the residence requirement as it should have been in the beginning?
The council has a public review; it's called an election and Kevin Osterman didn't pass at the last election. Some other council members very well may not pass at the next election...........
The reason the Charter Officers, mainly City Manager Jan Dolan, adamantly don't want public reviews is because "it could affect any future employment". Well, Do Tell, isn't that what needs to happen? If these appointed Charter Officers were subject to annual reviews that were made public and subject to public and employee/peer input, don't you think that secrecy, nepotism, favoritism, and other nonsense that goes on under the table and deep within the bowels of City Hall would stop abruptly?
We think it's time for all Charter Officer reviews, excepting personal family information, to be made public. If someone doesn't want their review to be made public, they must be hiding something. In addition, if the hidden reviews were revealed, they could also tell the public where any favoritism by the council members toward the Charter Officer reviewed is located and in what manner or direction it has been directed. They would also reveal what has been hidden from the public, such as the $15 million Dolan Boondoggle.
If it means that the Review format has to be changed so that the Charter Officer's charges can participate as part of the review, more power to that idea. It could well be a three (3) part review using the current format, then add the employee's input as well as the councils input based on personal intuitive thoughts, constructive, and actual performance with all three sections of the review having equal weight in the final performance scoring. The independent City Audit Department should calculate the final scores so there could be zero charges of hanky panky against the council or council staff.
It's time we cleaned up this city government and stopped all of the secrecy that has been going on by making Charter Officer reviews public ASAP.
~Downtown Scottsdale Town Hall Report
Below are the Summary Highlights and Recommendations from the Downtown Scottsdale Town Hall.
SUMMARY HIGHLIGHTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM THE
DOWNTOWN SCOTTSDALE TOWN HALL
As one of the first steps in an extensive public outreach effort to develop a comprehensive update to Scottsdale's 1984 Downtown Plan, the Scottsdale City Council worked with the Arizona Town Hall to produce a Downtown Scottsdale Town Hall. The goal of the Town Hall was to develop a beginning consensus to help guide the future evolution of Downtown Scottsdale. Summarized below are some of the ideas emanating from the recommendations report.
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Scottsdale should continue to promote Downtown Scottsdale as the primary cultural, civic, retail and governmental center of the city.
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Downtown Scottsdale's nostalgia and historic western culture should be maintained as part of promotional campaigns. However, it should not dominate other great characteristics.
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Downtown Scottsdale should explore the concept of a cohesive downtown model that capitalizes on the distinct individual identities of each district. Identifying signage, architecture and other features should be utilized to differentiate each of the districts.
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A bond proposal supporting the arts and culture within Downtown Scottsdale should be presented to the voters in the earliest appropriate election cycle.
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More urban open spaces - such as plazas, outdoor restaurant patios, roof parks and pocket parks - should be developed in conjunction with and connected to the pedestrian and bicycle routes between the various Downtown Scottsdale districts and the surrounding areas of Scottsdale.
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Shade, trees, public art and lighting should be added throughout Downtown Scottsdale. These features should be carefully selected to compliment Downtown Scottsdale's current character.
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The name of the Scottsdale Civic Center Mall should be changed to delete the term "Mall."
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The city should encourage high quality revitalization and innovative quality developments while respecting existing height limits in the old town and traditional shopping districts.
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Development of a comprehensive transportation plan should be accelerated and implemented. It should address both access to Downtown Scottsdale and mobility within Downtown Scottsdale,
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Chaparral, Thomas and Indian School Roads should be significantly widened to connect Downtown Scottsdale and the 101 Freeway.
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Additional parking spaces must be created and the non-employee three hour parking limit should be eliminated.
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City officials should continue to seek input from and work with community leaders, businesses, residents, property owners, relevant stakeholders and adjacent communities as Scottsdale's downtown plan is amended.
To see the complete report, Click Here.
~Item #2: We don't agree entirely with Item #2. Scottsdale has been the "West's Most Western Town" for decades and we see no reason why it can't continue as that to maintain continuity until something better comes to the top of the "cream" as can happen over time but not by an arbitrary decision.
~Item #4: We do not agree with Item #4 until the city government can get their penchant for over spending under control. We still have a Preserve to heavily finance and we don't feel the voters will approve tax money for both projects which will cause both to fail.
~Item #8: We could only accept Item #8 if all planning was done in a comprehensive manner using LEEDS green technology inclusive with a complete residential and commercial overlay which DOES NOT include any project by project reviews as is currently done now, or heights over 36 feet except 60 feet in the current downtown area, but not the length of Scottsdale Road.
We DO NOT want high density urbanization of this city. The council and city government need to learn to live within their financial means. Property values will continue to climb as low density homes are maintained and the infrastructure, parks, etc. are modernized and brought up to date.
As other cities continue to include high density urbanization in their cities plans, Scottsdale will become far more desirable by maintaining the low density residential areas that currently exist and maintaining the hot core area in downtown without encroaching into the existing residential areas.
~Item #9: We agree with Item #9 as long as it DOES NOT include any form of railed transportation, narrowing of any roadways, or more traffic circles/roundabouts/traffic calming devices which help to clog up roadways, increase pollution, and raise annual city roadway maintenance costs.
~Item #10: This should be THE top priority of all projects and needs to be done ASAP so the new residents of the new condos downtown won't clog up our streets even more than they are now. This project should be completed in the same or sooner time frame as the already underway Indian Bend Road expansion.
All other recommendations are reasonable as long as the spending is handled in a responsible manner which might be tough to do with the current administrations mindset concerning overspending.
~ Last "McOsterman" Update...............
Boy!!! This is getting boring and redundant so we'll call the exercise over!
The way the mail, e-mails, and phone calls are going, Ron won't have to worry about the council after '08 because unless he changes sides and starts listening to, and voting for the citizens instead of Manross and the "establishment" very soon, he won't be re-elected anyway.
His stubbornness about the simple issue of explaining in writing who paid for his trip to Marrakesh relates directly to how he deals with everything else; his mouth works independently on each side, listen to at what he says and then how he flips positions when he votes.
We really wonder if he's got the smarts to change sides and jump from a sinking ship before it's too late?
~ Out of Step and in a Self-Induced Political Coma
It continues to amaze us that Rick Kidder, Virginia Korte, and the Scottsdale Area Chamber of Commerce continue to follow in lockstep with the mayor, city manager, and council majority that are totally out of touch and out of step with the citizens of Scottsdale.
The vote to defeat the Prop 402 as well as the city-wide outcry against the DMB height increase for "One Scottsdale" causing DMB's withdrawal of the request, should have been an ominous omen that the entire group mentioned was totally out of touch with the citizens and needed to pay attention to the public, not their personal wants and goals, or their developer friends.
Now, we have the admission by a high profile one time supporter that SkySong is not a draw to the southern portion of the city as it was highly touted to be, the new North Scottsdale Chamber of Commerce who most probably came into being because of the original Chamber being out of step with the rest of the business community, and the new group called the Coalition Of Greater Scottsdale which encompasses the informed activists and many citizens from all areas of the city, north, central, and south, who are totally disenchanted with the disjointed direction the Scottsdale Area Chamber, city politicians, and the city staff are pushing the city to go.
This city belongs to the taxpaying citizens, not the politicians, not the city staff, and certainly not the Scottsdale Area Chamber of Commerce, or the developers.
Isn't it time we all stepped up and asked for a much stronger voice, a closing down of secret meetings, and a reopening of the political and planning processes as well as city hall such as they were for decades prior to the Manross years?
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letters@scottsdaleactivist.com ~ Freeway Photo Radar Factually Unnecessary Well, Well, Well, as we have stated to the Council (Nummys) before. The loop 101 in Scottsdale is no different than any other portion of the State Freeway system and today in the Tribune we find out that the 60 is the most dangerous sections of the freeway system. Even ADOT is quoted as saying they have no system available to study crash data and they wont have any until 2009; so how will that play into the Scottsdale/ Red Flex scam to keep photo radar on the freeway? A State Freeway we have no business on anyway's as we have no jurisdiction, but yet our illustrious band of fools on the Dais placed all Scottsdale Taxpayers in jeopardy from lawsuits that we will eventually get when they try to make some reasoning as to why they should keep it on the freeway at the taxpayers detriment. It is only a matter of time like in so many other states before someone files a class action lawsuit against the city and the State. I guess since we already know that the State will not take over the system and that was even noted by Rep. Reagan in a recent column, will our council now place us all in the same situation again? You bet they will. While Representative Reagan has a good idea in making sure that cities like Scottsdale make no money on the systems, reduces the fines to no more than a parking ticket, and removing points from licenses, watch how quickly Red-Flex calls their lobbyist to try to kill the plan. And with no points, watch how quickly the insurance companies who also profit from jacking up rates for speeding tickets back away from supporting the system under new rules. Watch how quickly Scottsdale leaders will jump to stop the bill since they now know they will make no money on the systems. The only problem with Rep. Reagan’s plan is that it still allows cities to illegally claim jurisdiction over the State Freeway system, so if they want the jurisdiction, then they should make the cities take over all the costs of maintaining the freeways also. Since NAU did the original 2 year study for ADOT, in which both Red Flex and Scottsdale participated in, why did they not send the information to NAU to evaluate instead of someone different? Could it be because NAU was the study group that recommended that we not put them on the freeway to begin with? And why did the city of Scottsdale and Red-Flex decide to push this through the city one (1) month after the NAU study recommended to ADOT not doing it? Is there a link between Red-Flex and the city? How much money did Red-Flex make off of the 9 months of illegal ticketing? Fact is, it does not matter what the information shows regarding the program, the State Legislators do not have to worry about an election year this time and I already see people lining up to put an end to the system and if Rep. Reagan gets her plan passed, the cameras will go dark, however I will be working yet again to get a ban introduced into the legislative session again this year also. The whole thing has been one big sham from the beginning and Manross knew it. Yeah, it was all about safety my foot, why 76 instead of 66 MPH if it was really about safety? Why did the money hungry leaders of this city continue forward even with the knowledge that MAG already showed a significant decrease in accidents in that section of the freeway? The whole program was a sham from the beginning and the ADOT study already spelled out all of the problems in which the city has already encountered. Next time it will make it to the ballot and it will die a miserable death like it should have the first time we tried to get it on the ballot, except this time they can not screw us over with a holiday filing date which even went against state election laws. You cannot even stop the carnage on your own city streets and we have to raise our taxes for more police which we still rarely see on the streets pulling folks over, so what the hell are you doing on the State Freeway System Ms. Drake? Answer that one for me as I am trying to get the city statistics for the streets so you can all compare them with the freeway which is none of your business. Regards, ~ Unprecedented Merger of North and South The emergence of the fledgling Coalition of Greater Scottsdale holds tremendous promise for the city of Scottsdale. At last, an organization is developing that will utilize the considerable talents of a wide variety of experienced community activists joined together to achieve the common goal of giving voice to the wisdom and common sense of Scottsdale citizens. I suspect that this unprecedented merger of North and South will not go unnoticed in the Kiva, and elsewhere. Charles Peters |
"America is not a stamp collection with one of each. It’s an overwhelmingly Christian country with freedom of religion for those who aren’t. But it’s quite an expansion of ‘freedom of religion’ to argue that ‘those who aren’t’ are entitled to forbid any public expression of America’s Christian inheritance except as part of an all-U-can-eat interfaith salad bar."
—Mark Steyn
"The greatest good we can do our country is to heal its party divisions and make them one people."
-- Thomas Jefferson (letter to John Dickinson, 1801)
"Congressional mores could certainly use an upgrade, but it pays to beware of reformers promising to clean up politics by letting someone else do the dirty work. Exhibit A is the strange new enthusiasm for an ‘independent’ office of public integrity for Congress... A better name for such an ‘independent’ ethics body would be the office of public buck-passing, because it would allow Congress to spare itself the heavy political lifting of judging colleagues. Handing over that duty to outsiders would make Congress less politically accountable, not more, while creating a whole new set of political problems and disputes... Like campaign finance reform, the proposal to outsource ethics oversight is about the appearance of virtue. It would let the Members pretend to come clean while lifting the burden of actually enforcing their own standards of conduct."
—The Wall Street Journal
~ Information You Can Use
~ UPDATE!! A "Must See" for All Americans
Every American should check out all of these websites to learn more about what the American population is about to have to deal with.
This is NOT for Children.
I don't normally allow anything but Scottsdale information in the Scottsdale Activist but after receiving many emails about this and viewing it, I think that it's imperative that every adult at least look at what's offered here if for nothing more than their own education and to have everyone stop and think about the future of our country. Click on the link below,
If you don't have Adobe Flash, install it from the bottom of the page that comes up after you click on the link above. You should be able to view all available links within the main page.
The website below is of great interest as seen from a Lebanese point of view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8fa9yKQeTY
The website below gives some history of Terrorist attacks:
http://patriotfiles.org/civilizationcalls.htm
~ View Past City Council Meetings
We can now access the city council meetings by clicking on the following link:
http://scottsdale.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=3If you have any problems, check your firewall and other safety features which could block access to the city site.
~Continuing Light Rail Information
The Scottsdale Citizens
Transportation Study Committee invites you to view their website for
more questions and answers at
www.norailforscottsdale.com .
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Simply click on the links below to get all the information you'll ever need concerning Light Rail.
If you have any questions about light rail, send them to editor@scottsdaleactivist.com and we'll get the answers to you as soon as we can.
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~Are Red-Light Cameras Fair to Drivers?
These modern-day robocops make ticketing easier and can be huge moneymakers for local governments. But critics question their accuracy and fret over privacy issues.
Click on the link below , then scroll down to read the article:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourCar/AreRedLightCamerasFairToDrivers.aspx
~ Scottsdale Legal Defense Fund
The Scottsdale Activist is very pleased to announce an effort on the behalf of the residents and taxpayers of the city of Scottsdale to promote open, honest and accountable city government. The Scottsdale Legal Defense Fund (SLDF) has been created to take legal action to hold the City accountable when its actions are contrary to state law, the City Charter, City ordinances or the public interest.
The most necessary ingredient to make the SLDF work will be confidential contributions from concerned Scottsdale citizens who are willing to help their community. By contributing, we can change the way City Hall does business and insure that our tax dollars will be spent wisely.
No funds from the SLDF
will or can be used for any political purpose.Contributions shall be kept confidential as
permissible by law and can be made in any Washington Mutual Bank
to account number 3114165786 for the Scottsdale Legal Defense
Fund. Branch locations are listed below. Contributions are not tax
deductible.
The SLDF has retained the law firm of Miller LaSota & Peters, PLC, in
connection with the patently illegal action taken by the Mayor and
Council appointing the most recent Scottsdale City Attorney, while
ignoring the residency requirement of the Scottsdale City Charter even
though the new City Attorney’s contract (according to Scottsdale
Republic reporter Laurie Roberts) requires that she reside in
Scottsdale. The City Council action was based on a legal opinion
which was reportedly rendered during a closed door Executive Session of
the City Council by a subordinate to the then acting City Attorney, who
was subsequently appointed to the City Attorney position by a vote
during a public City Council meeting. The opinion has been requested as
a public document under state law, but the City has not yet provided it.
The SLDF will take other appropriate legal actions based on the conduct
of the Mayor and Council.
Washington Mutual Bank Locations at which contributions to the SLDF can be made are:
72nd & Shea 7337 E. Shea Blvd #120 480-609-8524
Hayden & Chaparral 7908 E. Chaparral # C-113 480-949-0069
Horizon 14854 N Frank Lloyd Wright
480-614-6660
Scottsdale Ranch
10155 E. Via Linda Blvd #131 480-767-2060
Kierland Village 6501 E. Greenway Pkwy #133 480-315-2905
There are many other branches throughout the Valley.
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~ Your piece on Jan Dolan was right on the money and the case against her couldn't have been made any clearer. It's time for her to go before she does any more damage. Jan.... Take the hint.... Quickly!!!
~ We're now being told that what we found out was the city seal cannot be used on the Trolley? Why? It's on every other piece of city property including employee shirts. I think it's just because they want something new, generic, and ugly on the Trolley and it has absolutely nothing to do with the anything else, trademark or otherwise. This is all a bunch of Bull Crap and they know it!!!
~ Jan needs to go but being that McCullagh can't answer a simple, lightweight question in writing like who paid for your trip, how could he ever make a simple decision to fire Dolan? He'll allow her to stay no matter what she did wrong or how many millions of dollars she cost us because he's a Manross Wimp!! Sad, we had such great hopes............ won't get re-elected either.
~ According to the Fed's report in the Trib, the 101 is already safe so why does our nutso mayor want to spend our tax money on the photo radar again? Hopefully both Reagan's and Verschoor's bills will pass outlawing photo radar on state freeways in their entirety.
~City Council News Alert!! Mike Tyson Arrested for cocaine and DUI !! Where else, “Sugar Daddy’s”, the same place you just let them move their parking lot closer to the residential neighborhood. You should all be Very Proud of helping our communities they way you all do. Reminds me of how you helped us with Sky Diaper and their Free apartments, or the low income housing that you handed CSA all that money for. Sure makes that Colossal 15 million dollar land deal screw up Dolan made for the water treatment plant up North look better huh? Now all we need is for you to “help us” with Light Rail down Scottsdale Road. Happy New Year and good riddance to some of you in ‘08.... or maybe sooner for some?
~ Hey!! No one has told me yet how many free drinks I get at the Downtown Scottsdale New Years Party being my taxes paid part of the bill. With $15,000 in taxpayer money being paid in and only 10,000 attending, we should at least get one (1) free drink!
~ Attention Councilman Jim Lane: You are a likable, very knowledgeable guy and generally on the right side of things along with Littlefield and Nelssen but you need to be much more brief in your points of discussion. You have the ability to put people to sleep rather quickly. We in the north are also concerned about your position sometimes because you seem to be trying to be a "Manross Centrist" instead of doing what the citizens have asked be done. Being a "Manross Centrist" will not get you re-elected, being true to the citizens and the basic needs of the entire city will. Turn on your ears and refocus your eyes.
~ Thank you Nancy Cantor, Bob Vairo, and many others for helping everyone come together with the rest of the city to stop the political and operational blackmail by the local politicians, their staffs, and some developers. Enough is enough already.
~ The city owns the Trolleys so put the city seal in the middle of the logo and get on with it! If it ain't broke don't fix it, the seal has been our recognition for decades and it needs to stay our recognition by being put in the trolley logo.
~ If Rep Michele Reagan's bill passes, there will be no need for the mayor to continue spending money on 101 radar because there will be zero money to the city and safety isn't the issue.
~ Councilman McCullagh wake up!! You've sucked up to the wrong side! If you expect to get re-elected, you better wise up and quickly!
~ Jan Dolan's time has passed; Move on Dolan, you are not needed or wanted here any longer. You've blown enough of our money on stupid projects that we'll have to tear out after you leave. We need someone who understands suburban low density renovation and revitalization, not urban high density infill.
~ I think that if they don't allow the city insignia ("West's Most Western Town") to be put on the Trolley in the middle of the new logo, we should take it to a referendum. The city owns the trolleys and the trademark and can determine how it can be used. I used to work with those things and what the city attorney is doing is stonewalling because she and "Mary the Loser Mugwamp" don't want it to be on the Trolleys.
~ Why was the Hualapai water plant built in the flood plain and on leased state land? Great move Dumbos, I've got seashore property on Camelback Mountain I'll sell you, cheap!!!
~ The employees of the city of Scottsdale want to profusely thank all who work with the Scottsdale Activist trying to make our city better. Someday when the current crop of bad managers and the mayor are history, we'll be able to thank you all personally; until then we have to stay way under the radar or we'll lose our jobs in a New York second, and you can go to the bank with that last comment. In case you didn't already know, the mayor, Dolan and company, and other management types hate your guts for what you are printing even though it's all true to which we can testify. You've caught them in the act more than once and the Hualapai thing is only one of many, so keep up the great work you are doing to save the city from destruction by a few who have no clue how to work with employees or listen to the citizens.
~ Thank you for the links to the movie "Obsession" and the other links concerning Islamic Terrorism. What an eye-opener they are. You are exactly right! Every American should watch all of them so they understand what we are up against and will be for years. We can't understand why the Muslim's in the United States have not publicly and loudly denounced these actions unless they agree with what the terrorists are doing.
~ Why didn't you add Mary O'Connor, Ed Gawf, and Judy Register to your list of those city people we need gone with Dolan? Can't Dolan take then with her, after all they are her team and she brought them to us didn't she?
~ Attention City Council: Dismiss Dolan at your January meeting or we'll dismiss you! Are you listening Ron McCullagh???
~ The Queen Mother Mary and her sidekick Dolan need to be "micromanaged" right out of their positions ASAP before the entire city is totally broke and screwed over beyond repair.
~ Thank you SA for bringing forward all of things you do in the best interest of the city. Without you, who would bring all of this to our attention? It sure as (heck) won't come from the Scottsdale Republic, city council, or city staff. Also, thanks for giving us the ability to get to some back issues, it sure helps put things in perspective.
~ Did the mayor get her way in eliminating the
Citizen Budget Committee?
Editors Note: Go to the link below to see the council decision, if you
can understand it:
http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/council/Agendas/2006/Dec/121106/Item18.pdf
~ Obviously McCullagh doesn't get it. Even if it's a pesky, nonsensical question or statement, it needs to be dealt with or it makes him look like he is either lying or avoiding the question/statement. Ron, do us a favor and give the Activist a straight answer, in writing!!
~ Thank you to the Activist for having the intestinal fortitude and giving of your time to do what you do. Happy New Year to all.
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