~Holiday Food for Thought

As we begin to celebrate Christmas, please remember those who fight to keep us free, so that we are Free to celebrate the birth of Christ without fear of anyone or any one government. It is not happy holidays, it is MERRY CHRISTMAS! I hope you all have one.

This has been around for a while but, each time I read it I want to give thanks to our fighting men & women for their efforts and sacrifices. So I send this to you in hopes you will take a minute to thank them as well.

A Different Christmas Poem

The embers glowed softly, and in their dim light, I gazed round the room and I cherished the sight.

My wife was asleep, her head on my chest, My daughter beside me, angelic in rest.

Outside the snow fell, a blanket of white, Transforming the yard to a winter delight.
The sparkling lights in the tree I believe, Completed the magic that was Christmas Eve.

My eyelids were heavy, my breathing was deep, Secure and surrounded by love I would sleep. In perfect contentment, or so it would seem, So I slumbered, perhaps I started to dream.

The sound wasn't loud, and it wasn't too near, But I opened my eyes when it tickled my ear. Perhaps just a cough, I didn't quite know, Then the sure sound of footsteps outside in the snow. My soul gave a tremble, I struggled to hear, And I crept to the door just to see who was near.

Standing out in the cold and the dark of the night, A lone figure stood, his face weary and tight. A soldier, I puzzled, some twenty years old, Perhaps a Marine, huddled here in the cold. Alone in the dark, he looked up and smiled, Standing watch over me, and my wife and my child.

'What are you doing?' I asked without fear, 'Come in this moment, it's freezing out here! Put down your pack, brush the snow from your sleeve, You should be at home on a cold Christmas Eve!' For barely a moment I saw his eyes shift, Away from the cold and the snow blown in drifts.

To the window that danced with a warm fire's light Then he sighed and he said 'Its really all right, I'm out here by choice. I'm here every night.' 'It's my duty to stand at the front of the line, That separates you from the darkest of times.

No one had to ask or beg or implore me, I'm proud to stand here like my fathers before me. My Gramps died at 'Pearl on a day in December,' Then he sighed, 'That's a Christmas 'Gram always remembers.' My dad stood his watch in the jungles of ' Nam ', And now it is my turn and so, here I am.

I've not seen my own son in more than a while, But my wife sends me pictures, he's sure got her smile. Then he bent and he carefully pulled from his bag, The red, white, and blue... an American flag. I can live through the cold and the being alone, Away from my family, my house and my home.

I can stand at my post through the rain and the sleet, I can sleep in a foxhole with little to eat. I can carry the weight of killing another, Or lay down my life with my sister and brother.. Who stand at the front against any and all, To ensure for all time that this flag will not fall.'

'So go back inside,' he said, 'harbor no fright, Your family is waiting and I'll be all right.' 'But isn't there something I can do, at the least, 'Give you money,' I asked, 'or prepare you a feast? It seems all too little for all that you've done, For being away from your wife and your son.'

Then his eye welled a tear that held no regret, 'Just tell us you love us, and never forget. To fight for our rights back at home while we're gone, To stand your own watch, no matter how long. For when we come home, either standing or dead, To know you remember we fought and we bled. Is payment enough, and with that we will trust, That we mattered to you as you mattered to us.'

PLEASE, would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. Service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe.

Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves for us.

LCDR Jeff Giles, SC, USN 30th Naval Construction Regiment OIC, Logistics Cell One Al Taqqadum, Iraq

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~ Letters to the Editor  

letters@scottsdaleactivist.com

~ Code Enforcement Under Fire

Editors Note:

To preface this letter to Raun Keagy, General Manager of Neighborhood Services, from an obviously and rightfully upset Scottsdale citizen, we need to make it clear that I sat down with Assistant City Manager David Ellison and General Manager Raun Keagy. A number of issues were discussed which will hopefully help improve the workings and public perception of the department. Both Ellison and Keagy were open to suggestions and understood the problems we discussed.

I must say though that I agree, in my and many other citizens opinions, that Mr. Hankins as Field Manager as well as a few of his employees are not doing the job that is commensurate with the proper customer service and level of expertise required of Scottsdale city employees.

By his actions, Malcolm Hankins is apparently in disagreement with the well proven and widely accepted concept that personal contact is the most important part of customer service when in the position of enforcing codes, ordinances and laws for the position currently held by Mr. Hankins. I also agree that there are some employees who only do the minimum they need to do, but don’t step out of the box to go above and beyond the job description to make the city a better place to work and live.

We understand that the department is currently under serious reassessment and reorganization and in all fairness we ask that Keagy be given the chance to do what’s necessary to correct the deficiencies currently obvious within the department within a reasonable period of time.

Everyone should be reminded that the department policy was dictated to former General Manager Judy Register by former City Manager Jan Dolan with Mayor Manross’ approval for almost 7 years and those numerous and necessary corrections cannot be made over night.

We would also strongly suggest that Mr. Rivero-Lowen make an appointment with Acting City Manager John Little to discuss, with factual information in hand, his problems with the Code Enforcement Department and any other issues or departments he may find necessary to discuss.

Editor

Mr. Keagy:

I am in receipt of your email suggesting that my services were 'no longer (welcome) at the Code Enforcement Department'. First, that is clearly too bad. The initial mandate to help a dysfunctional department and manager were compelling. There is no question that this department is in chaos and is barely functioning under the inept, incompetent Manager, Malcolm Hankins. Once again, as I detailed in previous emails there are many infractions, most obvious and all serious that are constantly ignored, although numbers of reports to address these have been filed.

More egregious is the fact that you have decided, obviously on your own account, to 'empire build' as Neighborhoods Department Manager. You made a decision to move me out because I became the 'conscience' that you cannot cope with and get away with not doing your job. Your job is to see that violations are dealt with and subordinates do their job. Neither of which you do. You are every bit as incompetent as Mr. Hankins. Your choice to spend consider amounts of Taxpayer dollars, at a time of deepening city deficits, on pool equipment to resolve 'algae issues', when The County had a mandate to do this is an example of your poor judgment.

Further, you have never answered questions of possible undue influence by special interest groups in Scottsdale. For example, The American Church, at Pima and Dynamite has extensive roadwork and sign work done to aid this church. For the fifth time I want to know who paid for this? Did you or anyone else authorize city funding for a private enterprise? You indicated once, under pressure that they would 'pay it back'. What does that mean? I also asked about a wall that had been built directly on a wash between E. Desert Cove and Becker, bordering 96th Street. This is illegal, yet, again you chose to ignore this. Why was this allowed and what was/is your response?

Some time ago I began to accumulate a digital record of illegal signage, vehicles (review my report of an 18 wheel truck with Monterrey Homes signs at the corner of Westland and Scottsdale Roads-there for 11 months), et al. You suggested that you would get Mr. Hankins to 'better do his job'. This never happened, and the public areas show more instances of intrusion.

Frankly, it can only be a matter of your incompetence, malfeasance and simply pandering to wishes of the present Mayor, and possibly members of The Council, that you not rock the boat of special interests.

I will, at this time, advise The City Attorney of my wish that you be removed 'for cause', and the same for the ever ineffective Mr. Hankins. I also, will not accept your removal of my services as a volunteer in Code Enforcement and review undue influence and lack of empowerment to do that. Let us remember that your onetime mentor, the fired for cause, Ms. Dolan, will not have the voice to constantly defend you, as she had to so often in the past.

Sincerely,

Steve Rivero-Lowen
Scottsdale

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~A Citizens Response to Councilman Ecton

I responded to an interview with Councilman Wayne Ecton by Robert Leger of the Scottsdale Republic on Tuesday November 25^th which can be found at:

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/SREditorials/39987

Mr. Ecton, Mayor-Elect Jim Lane is pragmatic, is thoughtful and is also candid and aware of the City as "a whole," not individual parts separate from one another, and he is aware of the need for sound long range planning inclusive of all community voices to build consensus. He knows, as do the people that none of us get 100% of our "vision," but we build that consensus with respect and open minds and hard work.

 Trust me Mr. Ecton, Mayor Manross was not intimidated by "activists" because she totally ignored their existence and their concerns.

 When the discussion has been inclusive and in depth contention will diminish, it might not go completely away. Hopefully those voices will remain to keep all on target.

 Please, Mr. Ecton, listen to your son more often.

 As to Dolan, you now admit that what the residents were saying all along, for over five years, was true. Yet, you strung the people along to accommodate the special interests and developers allowing project by project development and no long range planning and purposeful neglect for an implementation process for specific elements of the General Plan.

 Do you have ideas about what should happen on McDowell Road?

I have some ideas about what I don't want…………………….Start paying attention right now to the "Advanced Planning" effort the South Scottsdale Community Planning Area is engaged in to address the mandated update to the General Plan.

 When you think about the location……think about the economic development of the McDowell/Scottsdale Road Corridors that connect them with neighboring communities along with the over 70,000 people living South of Indian Bend Road.

 When you think about Scottsdale, in total, think about the need for "essential worker housing" for all those who provide the quality of life we all enjoy 24/7. Remember that healthy communities provide many housing options for youth, senior citizens, owned and rented; and remember that all levels of income should be addressed with a vision for quality of life. Not all senior citizens can afford luxury accelerated communities, nor do they want them.

Think mixed use to address the needs for economic development.

 Respect the integrity of existing single family neighborhoods when addressing infill projects and that includes the issues of height and density.

It is amazing that one so close to all government functions can be so far off base about SkySong and South Scottsdale. Mr. Ecton, some of those dreaded activists you impunge spent some time with former Economic Developer David Roderique before he quit and asked what Scottsdale was doing to "officially" assist the developer of SkySong to promote that project and South Scottsdale as a good place to live and do business. They put the same question to the Executive Director of the Scottsdale Area Chamber of Commerce. They got the same answer from both gentlemen, "Nothing."

When you have no long range planning process to implement the vision how and what do you promote?

 It was not because it is "South Scottsdale."  It was because the City Manager, Mayor, Council and business leaders walked away thinking the name Michael Crow and ASU would seal the future.

 This is why programs such as ASU Institute for Global Sustainability are tackling the question, "What can be done to make SkySong successful.

 Every citizen in Scottsdale knows that the McDowell Sonoran Preserve must be completed and maintained both from an economic point and an environmental point. Council members and community have to create better partnerships to address the finances, whether that includes taxes or public-private partnerships.

 There isn’t one person on the Council presently, or recently elected, who is not intelligent and capable. The problem is that some refuse to be circumspect. One size does not fit all. If you choose to run for a third term consider the big picture of Scottsdale and what goes into managing the business of the 240,410 "shareholders" who live in it’s 184.2 square miles divided in to corporate subdivisions.

Remember too, that around this wonderful world countries, cities, older than Scottsdale and bigger, have managed to respect and preserve their past while including the "new and vibrant." It can be done, it does take planning and vision

"Dodie"
Scottsdale

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~ More Code Enforcement Problems!!

Editors Note: The messages start at the bottom and chronologically progress from the bottom up. Why is it that issue after issue continually come up concerning the Code Enforcement Department problems? Could it be a personnel problem or a lack of training? We’re told that the department is under an extensive reorganization. We hope this is true and that certain employees are either demoted or replaced.

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Editor,

I realize you are no longer writing the weekly activist. Just wanted to pass this along and give yet another example of "do what I say not what I do" Scottsdale logic.  

Code enforcement is broken and no one seems to want to fix it.

 

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: "Lane, Jim" <JLane@ScottsdaleAZ.Gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:01:20 PM
Subject: RE: mobile storage units

The following is the response I received from the head of code enforcement. Essentially he saying that someone complained about your min-storage units, and did not respond to whether the city complies itself. I presume that the city feels they can continue their use until someone complains.

It is not a real good answer for you and it may not be entirely just, but that is the way they operate. The anonymous complaint is a poor method to use in the enforcement of code. It may deserve some review just because there is too much latitude (arbitrary judgment) with that type of selected enforcement.

Andy I thought that Raun had forwarded his response to you, but obviously not, so I attached it here below.

Regards,

Jim

W.J. "Jim" Lane
Councilman
Scottsdale City Council
Office 480 312-2302
Mobile 480 710-6170

Councilman Lane:

Yes, we do enforce the ordinance equally and generally speaking, it is done on a complaint basis. While the person did not include the address of the issue, I checked the Northsight area and found two open complaints regarding this issue. The first was the result of a e-mail compliant and the second was the result of the Inspector initiating a case for the adjacent property while investigating the first violation. We will investigate the locations listed in the below e-mail and if warranted, initiate a case. Please note that the Zoning Ordinance does allow for the temporary use (90 days) for this and we are working with the Planning dept. on potential longer term solutions as the desire to use mobile minis is becoming popular in both the Northsight and Airpark areas, as well as other parts of the City.

Raun Keagy

Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:26 PM
To: Ecton, Wayne
Cc: Lane, Jim
Subject: Re: mobile storage units

Councilmen,

I can't say I'm surprised but I would have thought with your interest I would have received a response from staff.    

From: "Ecton, Wayne" <wecton@scottsdaleaz.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:59:32 AM
Subject: RE: mobile storage units

Good questions.  Staff will follow up with you.

Councilman Ecton

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:56 AM
To: City Council
Subject: mobile storage units

Contact Information (if blank, user did not provide):
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MESSAGE:

Mayor Manross and members of the Council, I write to you today about a troubling enforcement trend here in the Northsight/airpark area. Recently we received notices from the city about mobile mini storage units in our rear parking area, that is not visible from the street and serve as safe storage for our inventory or overflow sales items. We have every intention to comply and have already moved one from our parking lot, but I see that YOUR own properties have Mobile Minis on them.  Do you have the same uniform enforcement of your own house? What about the auto dealers who provide sales tax, or the hotels who are a source of the city’s bed tax and revenue stream. I would hope that your staff could find real issues and real problems to enforce vs. the out of sight storage units some businesses need. One of our neighbors has had theirs for over 6 years, and even painted it to match their building but now I've been informed that they have to go through some time consuming process to get it re-approved! I hope the same vigorous enforcement has applied to the following: (It might be time to rethink your enforcement efforts rather than trying to find things to frustrate business owners just struggling to keep our doors open.)

Scottsdale Healthcare Shea campus 92nd and Shea has mobile minis.

Lou Grubb auto has a temp storage building and temp office
building on site.

SE Corner of Princess and Hayden Rd your city park has a mobile mini on site. (for three months).

15750 N Northsight. Temp storage unit.

1533 N Hayden Temp storage trailers.

Millennium Resort, Scottsdale Rd and McCormick parkway.

Behind your own Human resources building there is a mobile mini.

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~ Why Mary Manross Lost……

In answer to a Scottsdale Republic column, "Old Pioneer" sent us the following:

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/RobertLeger/39879

Editor,

Mary Manross went from being a respectful, friendly and open public servant to a self-centered, disrespectful, fierce and nasty mayor to many who tried to work with her including council members.

She put on her designer blinders and swore irrationally, that she was carrying out former mayor Herb Drinkwater's work which is an ugly joke at best. In fact, she was systematically destroying Drinkwater’s dream, our wonderful city and reputation area by area. I strongly suggest that long time die hard Manross supporters dropped her like a hot potato this election for one or more of the following reasons.

Los Arcos was the premiere commercial location in South Scottsdale to renew the area by building on the already excellent area sales tax revenue to create an area where the auto dealers and other businesses would have new traffic from which to draw.

First we had the Coyotes Arena which the voters approved twice but lost due to Manross' inept abilities to understand the situation. (Or could it have been because of a pending special secret deal?)

Then we had the WalMart offer which again would have brought needed blood and traffic to the area, even with the unpopular subsidy (which would have been paid back long ago), but no, she had already been secretly working with ASU/ASUF to give away the property, then paid twice the appraised value through what I feel was a prearranged shady deal with Crow and Ellman.

What did we the taxpayers get? Nothing for almost 200 years; No tax revenue, no retail areas, and up to 800 apartments that were never part of the original plan, all to get a legacy for a greedy mayor who had totally lost sight of the needs of the city and her reason for being mayor.

But guess what else? She and the council majority set up the city taxpayers to be totally responsible for the entire infrastructure within and around SkySong for the entire 198 year term of the leases.

Because Manross effectively shot down the Coyotes Arena and the WalMart proposal in favor of a legacy instead of desperately needed taxes of any kind from ASU/ASUF SkySong, and paid ASU/ASUF and in turn Ellman twice what the land was worth by certified appraisal. The falsely inflated property value has caused potential and honest developers to loose their shirts because at those land prices, the developers cannot make the property pencil (be profitable) and so the area has fallen into disrepair.

The formerly busy and sales tax rich "Motor Mile" and a once vibrant retail strip center and Bashas Market east of SkySong (Los Arcos Crossing) has disappeared because of Manross failing to understand anything about true property values, development and regeneration. Lowes and Big "O" Tires you say? She had absolutely nothing to do with either coming to that South Scottsdale location.

Next, she allowed Rawhide, the remaining single largest sale tax provider and tourist attraction in the North East valley, to move to White Horse Pass on the Gila River Reservation while we had 80 acres next to West World (for which she paid 3 times the market value) where Rawhide could have fit nicely. What did we get in return? Another set of Condos with increased height and density that are or will be sitting half empty, with little to no retail sales tax revenue to be seen for the foreseeable future.

Then we have her illegal and secret act of knowingly signing an illegal lease with the State Land Trust Department for 10 million dollars without the City Councils knowledge or approval which will cost taxpayers the 10 million plus legal fees. This was while the city was planning to bid on the properties but PUBLICLY limited the amount the city would pay for said property allowing another bidder to legally and openly beat the city's bid which was above board and fair by law.

For someone who had already served over 14 years working within and knowing the city rules and Chart rules intimately, this was a selfish act of shear arrogance and stupidity based on her misguided thought that she was now invincible and could do as she pleased with total disregard for the citizens thoughts or needs.

She still has to answer legally and be deposed for this illegal act, for which she can and should be convicted for malfeasance in office under city and state statutes.

Downtown? Sure, now we have scores of empty bank owned condos, and 20-somethings openly urinating on the sidewalks, alleys and parking lots while families are steering away from the area after 5pm because of the drunks and unruly crowds, along with bars so thick and growing that we will never get downtown back to what it should be as far as our former reputation of a "family friendly" experience is concerned. Where were you Councilman Ecton?

Property tax reduced? Come on people, get a grip on reality!!

Mary Manross knew full well that in actuality, she was only telling the good half the story concerning property taxes when she knew full well that because of the huge increase in property values, the property tax ratio would be dropped yet the actual tax to the property owners would escalate by double digits for a number of years.

This just barely scratches the surface of how Manross and her council majority cost herself and the city taxpayers so much money and the city’s reputation, along with her re-election.

Jim Lane and the new City Council?

They'll do very well if they understand and learn the lessons of a number of serious failures during the Mary Manross Administration.

Any other questions?

"Old Pioneer"
Scottsdale

Editors Note:

Although Manross lost, the margin was very small. With that said, Manross used to have a guaranteed 8,000+ vote cushion plus whatever else she could pick up without help from developer or builder campaign donations which she promised many times to never use. This time she broke her promise and took developer and builder funds and still lost. Apparently her "edge" disappeared in this election because of the number of bad decisions she and the council majority made in the last few years. "Old Pioneer" has hit the nail on the head with this note concerning his/her reasons why Manross lost.

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 ~ COGS Alerts

The Coalition of Greater Scottsdale, a citizen and small business owner’s advocacy organization particularly concerned with "consistent land use policy and protecting our unique quality of Scottsdale life" provide the following information. More information is available on their website at http://cogsAZ.org

 ~Free shredding in Scottsdale: 

Thinking of purging those garage files? Need more space in your home office? Got documents that absolutely should not go into the city garbage? Open the attachment to get the complete information on the Scottsdale Police Dept. shredding event. It will be held at the Granite Reef Senior Center at McDowell Road and Granite Reef Road.[ Here are the details incase you cannot open the attachment:]

· Mark you calendar for Saturday, December 6th from 9 am to noon

· shred up to four document-loaded boxes free

· documents only (no books, spiral folders, and the like)

· bring one can of food for the Vista del Camino Food Bank

· other city departments will be present to answer your questions

 

 ~COGS CORNER ALERTS:

The Coalition of Greater Scottsdale urges its members and internet guests to respond to the following Scottsdale Planning Commission and Development Review Board cases. Please evaluate the zoning and text amendments proposed and contact the city staff member assigned to that case. ALSO CONTACT commissioners and city council members with your concerns ASAP.

The end of 2008 is a time for holidays and family events, but please don’t skip checking what cases the city Boards and Commissioners are hearing that will permanently affect your area or city wide.  Please browse through the following and ACT with your e-mails to the City Council members (citycouncil@scottsdaleaz.gov) or phone calls---and be heard!

 ~EPICENTER 4-ZN-2008

Tuesday, December 2^nd City Council at 5PM  Case#4-ZN-2008 Epicenter 

·        Request to rezone from the current zoning with a 36ft height limitation to PRC—a zoning category that allows building heights of 60 feet plus rooftop mechanical structures. The two parcels requested AT THIS TIME are part of a 125 acre consolidation located on the eastern side of the Loop 101 curve and on the northern side of East Bell Road. ALL existing development on the southern side of E. Bell Rd complied with the 36 ft limit. 

·        It is illogical to allow a highly-measurable increase in building heights next to land protected by the Environmentally Sensitive Land Ordinance. What environmental impact? 

·        Why lose the view corridor (insufficient project setbacks as well as height increase requested) to our Sonoran Preserve gateway route and the future Desert Discovery Center?

·        Why award upzoning that improves property value for the developer without major city incentives?

·        Why are citizens attending the Greater Airpark Community Area Plan study sessions and forums while the Planning Commission and City Council continue to review and approve significant upzoning case-by-case? 

·        The GACAP participants have strongly advocated that ONLY the airpark area be considered for high-rise buildings. How valid is the time spent in these meetings?  How valued is your input?

·        This applicant has been described as planning to return for the same upzoning on the remaining parcels in the 125 acres.  ….camel’s nose under the tent?

http://eservices.scottsdaleaz.gov/cases/casesheet.aspx?caseid=34978

WRITE YOUR E MAILS NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBERS OR ATTEND THE MEETING.

 ~Text Amendments Proposed:

(if approved, these would change existing ordinances and guidelines for city staff, commissioners and city council members)

 ~R1-7 Text Amendments 6-TA-2007, 7-TA-2007 and 8-TA-2007

If approved, these will impact Single Family Residential homes by revising the provisions for evaluating

(a) carports

(b) development standards

(c) accessory buildings.

The Planning Commission approved it 5-0 on November 12^th. This goes before City Council this coming Tuesday, December 2^nd. Kira Wauwie kwauwie@scottsdaleaz.gov is the city staff member to contact with questions.

 ~Hotel Live Entertainment Text Amendment 7-TA-2008

This proposal will remove the Conditional Use Permit requirement for live hotel entertainment. It would give them "by right live entertainment as an ancillary use to hotels, motels and timeshare developments" according to the applicant.

Current Zoning Ordinance J-10-b states "No external speakers will be permitted on the premises of a use permitted under this section, which is located within five hundred (500) feet of a residential district…."

It is the understanding of impacted neighborhoods near the W Hotel, Waterfront and Southbridge areas, along Goldwater Blvd and near other bars/nightclubs with outdoor entertainment or doors open wide that if this is approved, those businesses will have the flexibility to conduct outdoor live music nightly because no Noise Ordinance exists in the city.

If approved---this is CITY WIDE approval! Dan Stymer dstymer@scottsdaleaz.gov is the city staff member to contact with your questions.

 ~Outdoor Sales Display and Retailing 10-TA-2008

If approved, it would allow outdoor—sidewalk, parking lot, etc—display of merchandise and sales displays CITY WIDE. What an abrupt change to our strict sign and display existing code!

This would loosen restrictions on ALL FORMS of commercial establishments that include C-S, Commercial 1-2-3-4, C-O, PNC, PCC, PRC, Downtown District and PCP.

The Planning Commission hears it on January 14^th and the City Council decides on February 10^th. Brad Carr at 480 312 7713 is the staff coordinator.

 ~Animal Hospital amendment 8-TA-2008

Proposed for Aztec Animal Hospital at 8140 E. McDowell Rd, it would amend to permit an animal hospital use in a Regional Shopping Center. The Planning Commission approved it 6-0 on November 12. City Council will decide on December 2^nd. Kim Chafin kchafin@scottsdaleaz.gov at 480 312 7000 is staff to contact.

Perhaps a bit boring to read through BUT, once approved, it becomes our city guidelines.

WHAT WILL SCOTTSDALE BE IN YEAR 2009?….2020?

For the COGS Board of Directors,
Sonnie Kirtley, Chairperson
cellular: 602. 717. 3886 anytime

www.cogsaz.org or: cogsaz@cox.net
 

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